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Fascinating. Some very depressing indeed for a woman with half a brain (the gaps in goodness for astrology, crystals and maths made me want to divest from my gender asap) and some pretty surprising (N Korea being masculine, spanking children being masculine, men valuing own mothers and pregnancy more). All in all tho great stuff.

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So sad “salt” and “pepper” aren’t on here!!

I often ask people when out to eat, to look at the salt and pepper shaker, and tell me which one is the Man and which is the Woman.

Lmk in the replies!!

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The one for blowjob is interesting. A blowjob is primarily about a person with a penis receiving pleasure, so I can see why that’s coded male for women. But also, when I [m38] think about blowjobs I’m thinking of the person giving it, which for me has exclusively been women.

It’s interesting that “cunnilingus” doesn’t have the same disparity.

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Am i reading this correctly, that survey responses placed "meditation" as slightly feminine and about as bad as "racism," "a psychopath," and "the coronavirus"? And substantially worse than suicide, depression, betrayal, and incompetence?

There must be something I'm missing/misunderstanding here.

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The most interesting section by far is the stuff that each gender wants to push on the other. I wonder how much men and women rating a trans man as feminine/masculine is biased by the different politics on average of each gender. I can see why each gender would call the other entitled or incompetent, but I'm a bit surprised cowardice is up there. I consider it more gender neutral. I can't really see what's feminine about North Korea either myself- it's solidly either masculine or gender neutral in my view.

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>a snake (13)

Have been doing a review of snake mythology and the Aztecs, Incas, Scythians, Zohak, Abyssians, Egyptians, Arawak, Greeks, Papua New Guineans and the Chinese have myths where they sprang from the union of a First Woman and a serpent. Like others, I interpret this as a global (or near-global) phylogeny of snake myths going back at least 15,000 years. It's interesting that this survey finds women have a strong predilection for snakes, given the other explanation is the connection is some cognitive bias that all of these civilizations have noticed independently.

Read more about the claim here (and why I think there was a global root for serpent myths): https://www.vectorsofmind.com/p/eve-theory-of-consciousness-v3 ctrl-f "scythians" if you just want a bit more info about the list above.

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"In general, there was a slight correlation between how masculine an item was, and how ‘bad’ people rated it. Not sure if this is due to me subconsciously adding more bad-masculine things and more good-feminine things though!"

There it is - WAW, the Women Are Wonderful effect ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women-are-wonderful_effect ). We see most items in the top left and bottom right quadrant. The item selection could be biased, but we will never know since there are no objective, unbiased valence indicators for each of these items to compare to. Either way, the WAW effect is there - in the item selection, in the responses or both.

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Full size image isn’t available. Links to 404 error :-/

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The link to Imgur for the zoomable big chart is broken when I attempt to go to it :(

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